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. >> a lot of terrorists aren't al qaeda. when she said at the beginning that the key thing here is to the security failure in benghazi, she's correct. that's not susan rice's responsibility. that's the state department -- >> i know. >> susan rice is being asked to defend all kinds of stuff that's really the responsibility of the state department and the cia to explain right now. it was mainly a cia operation. >>> this afternoon in a cabinet meeting president obama answered a question from a reporter the heat, i was calling it the fried rice, the headline in the new york post, the fried rice from republicans on the hill. take a look at the president's way of handling this today. >> mr. president, do you think it's being fair to susan rice. >> thanks, guys. susan rice is extraordinary. couldn't be prouder of the job she's done at u.s. u.n. >> you saw hillary clinton leading the applause. really, you know, to be fair about it, the officer in charge was the state department and the cia. you're going to take the u.n. ambassador,
. >> a lot of terrorists aren't al qaeda. when she said at the beginning that the key thing here is to the security failure in benghazi, she's correct. that's not susan rice's responsibility. that's the state department -- >> i know. >> susan rice is being asked to defend all kinds of stuff that's really the responsibility of the state department and the cia to explain right now. it was mainly a cia operation. >>> this afternoon in a cabinet meeting president obama...
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ties to al qaeda were involved. and then yet, went on the sunday show and left a very different impression. let's not forget that on those sunday shows on "meet the press" as well as "face the nation" she also made the statement that al qaeda was decimated. and so it left a misleading impression to the american people. i was also troubled that they knew by the 21st the acting director of the cia said that the information about the reaction to the video and the protest was wrong and that no one corrected it, including ambassador rice, even though she had left that impression on every single network, op every sunday show. that left me very concerned about that as well. >> did she say to you that she had reviewed intelligence specifically about benghazi, that had the additional information? she couldn't say so publicly. had she reviewed that intelligence? did she affirm that to you or are you assuming that she had? >> she did review it. >> so, in other words, she knew better than what you're saying that she knew better
ties to al qaeda were involved. and then yet, went on the sunday show and left a very different impression. let's not forget that on those sunday shows on "meet the press" as well as "face the nation" she also made the statement that al qaeda was decimated. and so it left a misleading impression to the american people. i was also troubled that they knew by the 21st the acting director of the cia said that the information about the reaction to the video and the protest was...
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the talking points originally linked the attack to al qaeda. when the document was sent to the rest of the intelligence community for review, a decision was made to change al qaeda to extremists for intelligence and for legal reasons. you say you want an answer. that one has been answered in public. everybody knows. also, more questions. >> why were references to al qaeda left out? >> sir, we've known the answer to this one for nearly two whole weeks now. quote, a reason the references to al qaeda were deleted was that the information came from classified sources and the links were tenuous. john mccain going on national television as the point man for this supposed mass cover-up. he does not seem to be familiar with the basic details of the story that have been made public. the basic details of the story he is alleging was covered up. senator mccain outdid even himself when he offered this as his latest piece of smoking gun evidence that something is definitely rotten here. >> we knew within hours all the details when we got bin laden in the ra
the talking points originally linked the attack to al qaeda. when the document was sent to the rest of the intelligence community for review, a decision was made to change al qaeda to extremists for intelligence and for legal reasons. you say you want an answer. that one has been answered in public. everybody knows. also, more questions. >> why were references to al qaeda left out? >> sir, we've known the answer to this one for nearly two whole weeks now. quote, a reason the...
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was al qaeda involved? as an example. >> general petraeus says so. >> as an example because these are people who admire al qaeda. but did al qaeda direct this? no. >> i admire the beatles, but when i play music, i'm not the beatles. >> you could be the fifth beatle like murray the kay. >> like the pete best of television. >> okay. let's leave it there. >> eyes are unflushing. >> absolutely right. >> john heilemann, do you have anything to say? >> well, she very purposely on those sunday shows was asked whether it was an act of terror. she would not use that language. very purposely on five different sunday shows. the administration was asked for nine days whether it was an act of terror. the administration, jay carney, the president, declined to call it an act of terror. he really did not. >> oh, my god, joe, seriously? >> and nine days later, it was an act of terror. >> we have a more important question to ask here, john. has the president invited you to go play golf? >> no. >> because you are just gobblin
was al qaeda involved? as an example. >> general petraeus says so. >> as an example because these are people who admire al qaeda. but did al qaeda direct this? no. >> i admire the beatles, but when i play music, i'm not the beatles. >> you could be the fifth beatle like murray the kay. >> like the pete best of television. >> okay. let's leave it there. >> eyes are unflushing. >> absolutely right. >> john heilemann, do you have anything to...
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. >> an fbi agent in phoenix wrote an electronic communication identifying his concern that al qaeda associates and affilia co flight lessons. he recommended a number of things in his memos, sent it to fbi headquarters. >> i still look at that memo as the most important memo written in fbi history. >> it basically went to the bottom of the pile, nothing was done with it. there were numerous missed opportunities that happened that were not taken advantage of that were dots that were not put together. >> over 3,000 other human beings -- >> the families demanded a full federal investigation. >> how could this have happened? >> they wanted a 9/11 commission. >> our call for an indepen do with politics. it has everything to do with seeking out the answers that we so rightfully deserve. >> let's be very clear.z the families were angry. they wanted answers, and they weren't going to accept anything but the truth. >> but the bush white house said no to a 9/11 commission. >> we made the determination at< the time that there were more immediate things we need to do. >> the white house lobbied
. >> an fbi agent in phoenix wrote an electronic communication identifying his concern that al qaeda associates and affilia co flight lessons. he recommended a number of things in his memos, sent it to fbi headquarters. >> i still look at that memo as the most important memo written in fbi history. >> it basically went to the bottom of the pile, nothing was done with it. there were numerous missed opportunities that happened that were not taken advantage of that were dots that...
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megyn: they say we weren't entirely sure that it was al qaeda. and there was no reason to throw that name out there that early in the ballgame, and we were still investigating and may have had security reasons for not revealing all we knew. >> there were no issues in terms of revealing intelligence sources or methods by talking about an al qaeda affiliated group. it wasn't in fact a spontaneous reaction. they didn't know that with certainty, and that's what ambassador rice led the american people to believe. when they realized the that wasn't a fact. that's where the misleading occurs. you have to ask yourself why. president obama is running for reelection. he didn't want to bust the narrative he had al qaeda on the run. megyn: this is a bipartisan investigation in the senate. democrats including some top democrats have joined in the demands for more information on how this all happened and how we wound up where we are now. what are you hearing now from democrats about where we stand in this investigation. >> they certainly -- i believe they agre
megyn: they say we weren't entirely sure that it was al qaeda. and there was no reason to throw that name out there that early in the ballgame, and we were still investigating and may have had security reasons for not revealing all we knew. >> there were no issues in terms of revealing intelligence sources or methods by talking about an al qaeda affiliated group. it wasn't in fact a spontaneous reaction. they didn't know that with certainty, and that's what ambassador rice led the...
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al-qaeda had been decimated. of course, in the written statement she provided today to the public, which i want to tell our viewers we have, and in her meetings with you as well came out and did say the talking points provided by the intelligence community were incorrect in a key mr. mr. prest respect. there was no -- in a key respect. she's admitting now that what she said -- in right. megyn: she's blaming it on the intelligence committee. who told her to go on the sunday talk shows, and who specifically gave her this information? >> well, she was asked -- which i think has already been talked about earlier -- she was asked to go on the sunday talk shows by the white house. and the talking points were given to her by the intelligence community. let me just be clear, the information that was given by the intelligence community about the protests of the video, that was wrong, and we have to get to the bottom of why the intelligence community got that so wrong. because, frankly, the evidence from the beginning appe
al-qaeda had been decimated. of course, in the written statement she provided today to the public, which i want to tell our viewers we have, and in her meetings with you as well came out and did say the talking points provided by the intelligence community were incorrect in a key mr. mr. prest respect. there was no -- in a key respect. she's admitting now that what she said -- in right. megyn: she's blaming it on the intelligence committee. who told her to go on the sunday talk shows, and who...
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qaeda or al qaeda involvement. >> right. >> they shouldn't have tried to do that. that's an intelligence community judgment. so somebody else -- you know the director of national intelligence, the director of the cia, someone on that staff has to answer for that. that's not susan's problem. susan is out there and she's authorized what to say. the administration always has an early morning phone call on sunday. they go over what the issues are and basically you're told here's what you can say in an unclassified way. >> yeah. erin, i think there's a problem here. first of all, they could have told us that there were other potential scenarios out there instead of telling us it was related to a video and it was a demonstration, which both turned out to be completely wrong now. so i think they could have come out, they could have been more cautious and said there's a lot of possibilities out here. and this is one of them that we're looking at, you know, the video and the demonstration. but i think they really did not want to say on september 11th that an american sovere
qaeda or al qaeda involvement. >> right. >> they shouldn't have tried to do that. that's an intelligence community judgment. so somebody else -- you know the director of national intelligence, the director of the cia, someone on that staff has to answer for that. that's not susan's problem. susan is out there and she's authorized what to say. the administration always has an early morning phone call on sunday. they go over what the issues are and basically you're told here's what...
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security, the smuggling, al qaeda in the region, and sinai security. so this is in keeping with some things that have already been in train. >> you're looking at the right-hand side of your screen at the a row of cars, i want you to know the significance of that. that is a street in gaza city right by our bureau, a main street city right by our bureau, main street frankly in which we saw them dragging a body of a man accused of being a collaborator just yesterday. and now it is packed with cars for the first time in some eight nights as people are out celebrating this cease-fire shooting into the air in some cases. but just getting out of their homes, homes they've blocked themselves into in the last eight nights as they've been in fear of incoming shells and outgoing rockets as well. we're going to check in with our arwa damon in gaza city to let you hear the sounds and see the sights of what she is hearing and right now. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] how do you trade? with scottrader streaming quotes, any way you want. fully customize it fo
security, the smuggling, al qaeda in the region, and sinai security. so this is in keeping with some things that have already been in train. >> you're looking at the right-hand side of your screen at the a row of cars, i want you to know the significance of that. that is a street in gaza city right by our bureau, a main street city right by our bureau, main street frankly in which we saw them dragging a body of a man accused of being a collaborator just yesterday. and now it is packed...
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qaeda. and then the up classified talking points gave a very different impression. the person who delivered those talking points was susan rice. she said something republicans believe wasn't true. >> i don't follow that logic. why would she know it wasn't true? and second of all -- >> because the classified information at the time contradicted it. >> right, but the point is, intelligence contradicts itself all the time. in fact, you have numerous channels of intelligence can be both a terrorist attack and people there because of the movie, and so if you were given one set of talking points that are classified and then a litter iteration that are unclassified, do you go back to the cia and say you guys are contradicting yourself? >> maybe it's the intelligence community here, and there are reasons why you would want to obscure the fact that we would know who the terrorists were, if there was -- >> which is petraeus' argument. >> i don't necessarily buy that either. but the point being at the
qaeda. and then the up classified talking points gave a very different impression. the person who delivered those talking points was susan rice. she said something republicans believe wasn't true. >> i don't follow that logic. why would she know it wasn't true? and second of all -- >> because the classified information at the time contradicted it. >> right, but the point is, intelligence contradicts itself all the time. in fact, you have numerous channels of intelligence can...
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qaeda terrorist and innocent civilians. >> that is the defense of the obama administration today. in essence that this program is so targeted it saves civilian lives. what do you say to that in your case? >> well, i think it's very hard to assess that kind of claim without more information. information that the administration refuses to release. it's very easy for administration officials to make claims like this when there's no possibility that they're going to be held to account for the claims, no possibility that some court is going to order them to disclose information, no possibility that they'll be sksd foll -- asked follow-up questions. part of the reason we are in court asking judges to enforce the freedom of information act, asking judges to disclose more information is to allow the public to better assess the kinds of claims that the administration is now making, usually through unnamed officials in leaks to favored media. >> jodi, do you think this is the area where we've seen perhaps the most movement from candidate obama's commitments to president obama's tenure? >> y
qaeda terrorist and innocent civilians. >> that is the defense of the obama administration today. in essence that this program is so targeted it saves civilian lives. what do you say to that in your case? >> well, i think it's very hard to assess that kind of claim without more information. information that the administration refuses to release. it's very easy for administration officials to make claims like this when there's no possibility that they're going to be held to account...
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but she went on and basically defied what the president of libya said when he said al qaeda was involved. she said no. she continued to go back to this story that had to do with a spontaneous demonstration and about a bad video. and the bottom line is for secretary of state, you want somebody who actually can think about these issues, makes reasoned decisions, and asks tough questions. and i think she has failed that. and to me she has disqualified herself for secretary of state. >> here's what some democrats had to say about the rice nomination. let me play this for you, senator. >> i think it wouldn't be fair to disqualify her based on what she said on those sunday morning shows. >> i find it mind-boggling that some of the gop senators continue to go after her. it's completely unjustified. and i can only conclude that having failed to deny the president a second term they now want to deny him the cabinet of his choice. >> congressman schiff isn't the only one suggesting that opponents are playing politics with this. in addition to that, look, you've been on sunday talk show, you know h
but she went on and basically defied what the president of libya said when he said al qaeda was involved. she said no. she continued to go back to this story that had to do with a spontaneous demonstration and about a bad video. and the bottom line is for secretary of state, you want somebody who actually can think about these issues, makes reasoned decisions, and asks tough questions. and i think she has failed that. and to me she has disqualified herself for secretary of state. >>...
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they are trying to say the president did want us to know how bad the threat from al qaeda was. the decision was made to modify those talking points because we didn't want the enemy to know what was going on, not because there was an attempt to mislead the american people. >> there is a report out that ambassador susan rice has a major financial stake in the pipeline. if she is nominated, i would assume this would be a problem in her confirmation hearings. let's say she is secretary of state. wouldn't this be a conflict of interest? >> it could be. that would be a valid question in the course of if she were put forward for nomination. let's take a step back. she has complied with, it is my understanding, all of the rules and regulations to her current position. if she were to be nominated for any additional position, obviously, there again, she would follow all of the rules and regulations, not just with regard to disclosure but dealing with this as a conflict of interest if that's what they thought it was. >> nbc news reporting that chuck hagel is being vetted for a possible po
they are trying to say the president did want us to know how bad the threat from al qaeda was. the decision was made to modify those talking points because we didn't want the enemy to know what was going on, not because there was an attempt to mislead the american people. >> there is a report out that ambassador susan rice has a major financial stake in the pipeline. if she is nominated, i would assume this would be a problem in her confirmation hearings. let's say she is secretary of...
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an al qaeda affiliate was behind this. if so, that's -- that's their accusation, that she was misleading the public. >> all right. dana bash, reporting live from capitol hill this morning. >>> good news for the u.s. housing market. a report released just about an hour ago shows that home prices are up about 3.6% from a year ago. that is the biggest quarterly percentage gain in two years. the rebound spurred by a combination of record low mortgage rates and improving job market and a drop in foreclosures to a five-year low. >>> and also just into the newsroom, more signs of recovery. consumer confidence, it hit a four-year high. alison kosik joins us from the new york stock exchange. wow, i'm feeling pretty good this morning. >> reporter: you and a lot of other americans surveyed in this report. yeah. looks like the consumer is in a better place than they were, say, a few years ago. as you said, consumer confidence reaching a four-year high in november. this rise better than expected. americans said that they're feeling mor
an al qaeda affiliate was behind this. if so, that's -- that's their accusation, that she was misleading the public. >> all right. dana bash, reporting live from capitol hill this morning. >>> good news for the u.s. housing market. a report released just about an hour ago shows that home prices are up about 3.6% from a year ago. that is the biggest quarterly percentage gain in two years. the rebound spurred by a combination of record low mortgage rates and improving job market...
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that is why as president i will make the fight against al qaeda and the taliban the top priority it should be. this is a war we have to win. >> shortly after being sworn in, president obama sent in 21,000 more troops, marked by brazen attacks by a resurgent taliban. in late 2009 president obama announced the u.s. was opting for a counter insurgency strategy known as c.o.i.n. but to succeed, he said more troops were needed. >> the 30,000 additional troops i'm announcing will deploy in the first part of 2010, so they can target the insurgency and secure key population centers. they'll increase our ability to train competent afghan security forces and to partner with them so more afghans can get into the fight. >> but there was a key flaw in the plan to train afghan forces. many of them didn't feel they had a dog in the fight. they didn't support u.s. forces and didn't trust their own government. 2010 and 2011 ended up being the bloodiest years, more than 900 killed, more than four previous years combined. a year and a half later after the surge was announced it was over, the bhous said the t
that is why as president i will make the fight against al qaeda and the taliban the top priority it should be. this is a war we have to win. >> shortly after being sworn in, president obama sent in 21,000 more troops, marked by brazen attacks by a resurgent taliban. in late 2009 president obama announced the u.s. was opting for a counter insurgency strategy known as c.o.i.n. but to succeed, he said more troops were needed. >> the 30,000 additional troops i'm announcing will deploy...
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but these republican senators think she's lef the impression it's al qaeda in general. last thing i will tell you i was told she did say to the republican senators behind closed doors she regrets saying what she said because she knows it was simply not right. >> where does this go from here? obviously investigating intelligence officials as well, i imagine? >> yes. as i said, the acting director of the cia also in this room. and senators, republicans and democrats, are not thrilled with the information that they got publicly or privately. but the -- what goes on from here more meetings. she's back here, we believe, this afternoon, tomorrow she has a meeting with one senator, bob corker of tennessee, probably others. she's going to make the rounds and she's going to keep trying to persuade senators that what she did was the best she could do at the time. again, she has not been nominated but the fact she's being aggressive in trying to ease the ruffled feathers, that is an interesting and significant development. >> dana bash, thank you very much. appreciate it. [ sirens
but these republican senators think she's lef the impression it's al qaeda in general. last thing i will tell you i was told she did say to the republican senators behind closed doors she regrets saying what she said because she knows it was simply not right. >> where does this go from here? obviously investigating intelligence officials as well, i imagine? >> yes. as i said, the acting director of the cia also in this room. and senators, republicans and democrats, are not thrilled...
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al qaeda is not disseminated. al qaeda is roaring back in those parts of the middle east. washington is these day as bureaucrat? she does what she is told. she is a good soldier. she is going to be rewarded by the president with the secretary of state slot because she did his bidding. i think that's what this is, senator. >> i think that may be the view of the president of the united states. but, i think we are all responsible for what we say, particularly in positions of -- positions of responsibility to have all of the facts together before you tell the american people. and, by the way, this is also about the president of the united states who did not tell the people of this country, either did not know or didn't tell people as long as the 25th, two weeks later he was at the u.n., after being on "the view" and letterman saying that they didn't know what -- still saying that this was a hateful video that inspired. >> bill: he still hasn't explained it. he still hasn't explained it. >> he still hasn't explained it because there were people who were survivors from the consu
al qaeda is not disseminated. al qaeda is roaring back in those parts of the middle east. washington is these day as bureaucrat? she does what she is told. she is a good soldier. she is going to be rewarded by the president with the secretary of state slot because she did his bidding. i think that's what this is, senator. >> i think that may be the view of the president of the united states. but, i think we are all responsible for what we say, particularly in positions of -- positions of...
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of fingerprints there and david petraeus came along and said there are reasons why they took out the al-qaeda stuff from the talking points that rice delivered on the air and i think that argument among the elites is kind of prevailing and i think that it means that if the president does appoint-- i think the confirmation goes quickly. >> not everybody agrees though. maure maureen dowd rights when a gang shows up with rpg's in a place of hot bed sympathizer and extremist training camps. >> it's not over a movie. she should have been savvy enough to wonder why the wily hillary was avoiding the talk shows. and the dop diplomate needs to show more sensitivity and independence traits clinton has demonstrated in abundance and obama can do better at state than susan rice. >> and an article called susan rice term -- >> i was disappointing in the president, what she's said about regime change in african and countries and not looking more to her resume'. >> let me pull up a point on racism and sexism business. it never cuts the other way. liberals can criticize conservative african-american as conserv
of fingerprints there and david petraeus came along and said there are reasons why they took out the al-qaeda stuff from the talking points that rice delivered on the air and i think that argument among the elites is kind of prevailing and i think that it means that if the president does appoint-- i think the confirmation goes quickly. >> not everybody agrees though. maure maureen dowd rights when a gang shows up with rpg's in a place of hot bed sympathizer and extremist training camps....
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dick cheney and condoleezza rice talked about links to al qaeda in iraq. you've never made up for those huge, serious, significant lies in the arena of foreign policy. and now you're picking apart, you know, basically the very early and ultimately not misleading with regard to foreign policy decisions, statements that this diplomat made. >> one thing we're learning right now the meeting with ambassador rice and senator corker is happening as we speak so a little earlier than that noontime appointment. but the one thing we heard also from senator barrasso in the last hour was john considerry's name floated out and it would be easier for him to sail through. you had the opportunity to work with john kerry before. >> sure. >> when we hear about this, is that really what the game, as joy-ann said, this machiavellian game, basically let's get kerry in this position and then scott brown could take over his seat, run for that seat in massachusetts, we get scott brownbach in? >> this is a little delicate because i know so many people involved. this is what i'll te
dick cheney and condoleezza rice talked about links to al qaeda in iraq. you've never made up for those huge, serious, significant lies in the arena of foreign policy. and now you're picking apart, you know, basically the very early and ultimately not misleading with regard to foreign policy decisions, statements that this diplomat made. >> one thing we're learning right now the meeting with ambassador rice and senator corker is happening as we speak so a little earlier than that noontime...
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was al qaeda's poor leadership has been decimated but gop senators say it is proof rice was putting pre-election spin before national security. >> it was unjustified to give the scenario as presented by ambassador rice and president obama three weeks before an election. >> reporter: ambassador rice, what do you say to republicans who say your comments were politically motivated? rice didn't answer our question but admitted her talking points were, quo, incorrect in a key respect. there was no protest or demonstration in benghazi. while we certainly wish that we had had perfect information just days after the terrorist attack, as is often the case, the intelligence assessment has evolved. we stressed that neither i nor anyone else in the administration intended to mislead the american people at any stage in this process. and the white house had this to say. >> the focus on some might say obsession on comments made on sunday shows seems, to me, and to many, to be misplaced. >> reporter: gop senators also complain rice neglected to ask key questions before telling the public what turne
was al qaeda's poor leadership has been decimated but gop senators say it is proof rice was putting pre-election spin before national security. >> it was unjustified to give the scenario as presented by ambassador rice and president obama three weeks before an election. >> reporter: ambassador rice, what do you say to republicans who say your comments were politically motivated? rice didn't answer our question but admitted her talking points were, quo, incorrect in a key respect....
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decimated al qaeda, and leaders saying al qaeda seems to be okay even though bin laden is dead, they're still out there and all of these sympathizers. >> yes, the arab spring is almost two years in the making and it's been a complicated process. if al-qaeda, the full extent of it's ability to attack the united states, killing four americans, in countries -- many countries in the middle east where these kinds of activities are happening, it's not a very good score for al qaeda. they were not a -- it was an easy target, it was overrun. so i don't think you can say al-qaeda is back. they managed to attack and kill four americans in the middle eastern country. you know, certainly, it's worrisome, but it doesn't mean that al qaeda in any way reestablished itself. >> peter, thanks very much, fran, thanks to you as well. they lead some of the countries biggest companies, and they just wrapped up a major meeting at the white house about the so called fiscal cliff, they met with the president, we'll find out what they talked about the. the ceo of goldman sachs is here. . one expert tell lgs us w
decimated al qaeda, and leaders saying al qaeda seems to be okay even though bin laden is dead, they're still out there and all of these sympathizers. >> yes, the arab spring is almost two years in the making and it's been a complicated process. if al-qaeda, the full extent of it's ability to attack the united states, killing four americans, in countries -- many countries in the middle east where these kinds of activities are happening, it's not a very good score for al qaeda. they were...
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she may not have known it was al qaeda. there is no evidence it was a video. there is no evidence it cause spontaneous. so it' not just what susan rice wasn't told it what's she affirmatively told the american people which is demon extraabl s false. gregg: why did send out susan rice four days later to say it wasn't a terror attack necessary what is deliberately peddling a lie to the american people. do you think the president was doing that. >> that's a great question. if we can get reporters like you at his next press conference in 18-24 months instead of the ones i saw last week that have a crush on him. candy crowley didn't during the debate. it didn't happen last week. instead of taking up for susan rice. i'll make the deal with the president. you come in her place and answer questions. gregg: what about general petraeus, he has told members of congress he knew within 24 hours it was a terrorist attack. he says i signed off on the false talking points. what about his complicity in a lie? >> agreed. why did you change the talking points? it didn't fit an e
she may not have known it was al qaeda. there is no evidence it was a video. there is no evidence it cause spontaneous. so it' not just what susan rice wasn't told it what's she affirmatively told the american people which is demon extraabl s false. gregg: why did send out susan rice four days later to say it wasn't a terror attack necessary what is deliberately peddling a lie to the american people. do you think the president was doing that. >> that's a great question. if we can get...
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>>reporter: the talking points that stripped out language including al qaeda, senators say she has classified material that showed evidence of terrorists. >> when you have a position of ambassador to the united nations you go classified talking points in your responsibility for the job. >>reporter: and her meeting this afternoon with senator lieberman, chair of the homeland security who is running their own investigation. >>shepard: what are the white house and ambassador rice saying? >>reporter: after the meeting she put out a statement which reads in part and i quote, "we explained the talking points provided by the intelligence community and the initial assessment upon which they were based were incorrect in a key respect. there was no protest or demonstration in benghazi." the white house briefing spokesman carney minimized the impact of her statements on the sunday talk shows and he turned the focus on to the importance of finding who was responsible. >> people are more interested in talking points to a sunday show several months ago than they are in finding out what happened in benghazi
>>reporter: the talking points that stripped out language including al qaeda, senators say she has classified material that showed evidence of terrorists. >> when you have a position of ambassador to the united nations you go classified talking points in your responsibility for the job. >>reporter: and her meeting this afternoon with senator lieberman, chair of the homeland security who is running their own investigation. >>shepard: what are the white house and...
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. >> greta: now that dni now they say they were the ones who took the word al-qaeda out of the memo. >> this is the tech time that clapper has offered what amounted to a political defense of the administration. there had been obviously lots of questions raised about this last week. everybody said we don't know how the are language was pulled out. it's also the second time that clapper seems to have contradicted something he said before. if you look back to the stiary his office released, he said we initially assessed this has been a spontaneous demonstration. we revise that had assessment to reflect the fact we understood it was a terrorist attack -- that is not what people testified to. a number of intelligence officials on capitol hill saying under oath, we need immediately this was a terrorist attack. those two things, you put those statements next to each other that is flat contradiction. how do we have those contradictions two months after this. >> greta: from the state department phone call, fox excluded from the c.i.a. briefing and when the explanation when the dni, they don't
. >> greta: now that dni now they say they were the ones who took the word al-qaeda out of the memo. >> this is the tech time that clapper has offered what amounted to a political defense of the administration. there had been obviously lots of questions raised about this last week. everybody said we don't know how the are language was pulled out. it's also the second time that clapper seems to have contradicted something he said before. if you look back to the stiary his office...
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she reinforced the message that bin laden was dead, al-qaeda's been dismantled. and i would suggest that the intelligence surrounding the benghazi consulate attack was very rich with evidence that al-qaeda was involved and they had not been dismantled, and that's why we're pushing and we're going to keep pushing. we need to know how the system failed, how these four brave americans got killed, and we're going to get to the bottom of this. gregg: right. but, senator, the other day you said you don't trust susan rice, and you also said she doesn't have a good resumÉ to be secretary of state. does that mean that you will oppose her if she's nominated? >> we will cross that bridge when we get there. i don't trust the scenario that she laid out based on what i know about the intelligence. and it's just not her. gregg: yeah. >> the president repeated that storyline that this was a mob riot caused by a video seven or eight days after her. and the question, were they telling us the best intelligence we had about benghazi, or were they shading the story to give the best
she reinforced the message that bin laden was dead, al-qaeda's been dismantled. and i would suggest that the intelligence surrounding the benghazi consulate attack was very rich with evidence that al-qaeda was involved and they had not been dismantled, and that's why we're pushing and we're going to keep pushing. we need to know how the system failed, how these four brave americans got killed, and we're going to get to the bottom of this. gregg: right. but, senator, the other day you said you...
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the obama administration has decimated al qaeda. what i'm told she told senators in this meeting is that she regrets not saying that what she really meant, which is that the core leadership of al qaeda was decimated. why does this matter? because that is really -- that goes to the heart of the republican criticism that she was political, that her comments were politically motivated. what she says, i'll read her statement she put out on classified talking points she used. she said they were incorrect in a key aspect, there was no protest or demonstration in benghazi. while we wish we had had perfect information days after the terrorist attack, as is often the case the intelligence assessment evolved. we stress that neither i nor anyone else in the administration intended to mislead the american people at any stage in this process. brooke? >> i'm told senator lieberman made news on the hill. what did he say just now? >> reporter: very interesting. susan rice came back for another meeting this afternoon that just wrapped up with senato
the obama administration has decimated al qaeda. what i'm told she told senators in this meeting is that she regrets not saying that what she really meant, which is that the core leadership of al qaeda was decimated. why does this matter? because that is really -- that goes to the heart of the republican criticism that she was political, that her comments were politically motivated. what she says, i'll read her statement she put out on classified talking points she used. she said they were...
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qaeda affiliates but, rather, that it had begun with a protest that we nownow was nonexistent and that it was linked to a video, which we also know is not accurate. at the time ambassador rice made these assertions, there was conflicting evidence it is true but we had the president of libya saying that 50 people had been a resident, that people, terrorists from other countries had come to libya, and that the attack was premeditated and planned. i asked ambassador rice why she did not qualify her comments more in light of this contradictory reporting from the president of the country. her answer was that she relied on our intelligence analysis. i don't understand why she would not have at least qualified her response to that question. i'm also very troubled by the fact that we seem not to have learned from the 1998 bombings of two of our embassies in africa at the time when ambassador rice was the assistant secretary for african affairs. those bombings in 1998 resulted in the loss of life of 12 americans as well as many other foreign nationals and 4,000 people were injured. what trouble
qaeda affiliates but, rather, that it had begun with a protest that we nownow was nonexistent and that it was linked to a video, which we also know is not accurate. at the time ambassador rice made these assertions, there was conflicting evidence it is true but we had the president of libya saying that 50 people had been a resident, that people, terrorists from other countries had come to libya, and that the attack was premeditated and planned. i asked ambassador rice why she did not qualify...
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al qaeda hasn't been decimated. >> they are on the rise, all over iraq. they are training camps, in libbia. they are all over sirria. they are on the rise everywhere in the middle-east. >> eric: could the controversy derail ambassador rice's possible nomination as the next secretary of state? ford and joe, welcome this morning. >> thank you. >> eric: ford, that's your old boss, highly critical of miss rice. she has a long history with the president. do you expect him to nominate her? >> she should get a confrimplation hearing. blaming the intel is a cop-out and the head in the sand defense won't work. why did she allow herself to be a pawn for the administration, when it is clear within hours or a day, erch close to the matter knew it was a terrorist attack, yet, five days later, she went on the sunday shows and said, hey, it's a spontaneous protest, in response to a video. she needs to explain herself. senator mccane's -- mccain's right. susan rice is not the problem, the administration is. have you to show independence because your responsibility's to t
al qaeda hasn't been decimated. >> they are on the rise, all over iraq. they are training camps, in libbia. they are all over sirria. they are on the rise everywhere in the middle-east. >> eric: could the controversy derail ambassador rice's possible nomination as the next secretary of state? ford and joe, welcome this morning. >> thank you. >> eric: ford, that's your old boss, highly critical of miss rice. she has a long history with the president. do you expect him to...
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here's how he responded. >> two embassies were bombed by al qaeda, one simultaneously killing many. senator collins is certainly correct that at the time the ambassador to kenya requested additional security at -- or better security at the embassy because the security at that time was at a very busy intersection, not well-defended against car bombs and the like. as a result of the attacks, the state department produced new stand aurds which basically meant that any new embassy had to be moved back from major intersections or roads. and so, you know, collins is certainly right that this request was made. now, did susan rice not respond to that? i don't think we know the answer to that. was it even susan rice's responsibility? usually this is handled by the diplomatic security bureau which is in charge of these issues and so the fact that she was in charge of africa at the time of the state department may not have much bearing on this issue. we just -- and, you know, obviously she's not responsible for the benghazi security as ambassador of the u.n. we don't really know the facts of t
here's how he responded. >> two embassies were bombed by al qaeda, one simultaneously killing many. senator collins is certainly correct that at the time the ambassador to kenya requested additional security at -- or better security at the embassy because the security at that time was at a very busy intersection, not well-defended against car bombs and the like. as a result of the attacks, the state department produced new stand aurds which basically meant that any new embassy had to be...
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and james clapper saying he's the one who took out al-qaeda talking points after originally saying he had no idea who did it. so who should we really believe? maybe santa can help us. nope. instead we got michael goodwin. you can find his columns in the "new york post" and fox news. who is telling the truth and who is lying? >> look, you ask who we should believe? i think no one. that's the whole point of putting people under oath. then supposedly get the truth or we get perjury. i believe susan rice had to know better before she made those comments. i just recently reread president obama's speech to the u.n. where there is no question he is saying the video did it. all of that was false. they all had reason to know it was false. clapper is just a clown. i mean, he does this all the time. and the idea that james clapper can take responsibility for making the changes, why isn't president obama furious at him? why doesn't president obama fire him today if the president really believed that clapper made a huge mistake? >> gretchen: that's a loaded question because as director of national
and james clapper saying he's the one who took out al-qaeda talking points after originally saying he had no idea who did it. so who should we really believe? maybe santa can help us. nope. instead we got michael goodwin. you can find his columns in the "new york post" and fox news. who is telling the truth and who is lying? >> look, you ask who we should believe? i think no one. that's the whole point of putting people under oath. then supposedly get the truth or we get...
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james clapper says his office took out references to al qaeda and terrorism before ambassador rice went on all five sunday shows. he also says he knew at the time extremists were involved. the bottom line was this just wasn't ready for public consumption. there was a lot of covert stuff going on on the ground. senators now want him to explain the decision. senator mccain now says he he is willing to give ambassador rice a change -- chance to explain herself. a note of importance she worked hard against him in his run for the white house in 2008. many democrats believe part of his opposition to her nomination dates to that. the egyptian president who helped broker the cease-fire between israel and hamas today defended his controversial power grab. the egyptian president mohammed morsi stood by his decision to essentially give himself complete control over egypt. he says it's only temporary. you may recall last week he issued several decrees. including an order that all decisions he makes are final. and one that states no legislature and no court can overturny law that he makes. if that s
james clapper says his office took out references to al qaeda and terrorism before ambassador rice went on all five sunday shows. he also says he knew at the time extremists were involved. the bottom line was this just wasn't ready for public consumption. there was a lot of covert stuff going on on the ground. senators now want him to explain the decision. senator mccain now says he he is willing to give ambassador rice a change -- chance to explain herself. a note of importance she worked hard...
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al qaeda is on the rise, the islamists are on the rise. morsesi looked at iraq and saw al-maliki on the rise. our policy should be all in, keeping with our national interest and keeping with our values and help shape morsi. he is not going away. >> how do you think the president will walk the line of not getting involved in affairs we shouldn't be involved and and stopping the dominoes that are falling, one by one and balancing our national security, which is definitely impacted? >> it definitely is. there are four transition governments. one is in libya, we have a moderate government there that we influence, our failed policy there led to benghazi. syria -- that's unfolding, also tunisia and yemen. those countries are yet to be resolved. we can definitely influence that. if we don't influence that, if we sit on our hands, it is likely that radical islamists will have undue influence. >> shannon: how long do you think the cease-fire holds between hamas and israel? >> no one knows for sure. but i think it will hold for a while. hamas got wh
al qaeda is on the rise, the islamists are on the rise. morsesi looked at iraq and saw al-maliki on the rise. our policy should be all in, keeping with our national interest and keeping with our values and help shape morsi. he is not going away. >> how do you think the president will walk the line of not getting involved in affairs we shouldn't be involved and and stopping the dominoes that are falling, one by one and balancing our national security, which is definitely impacted? >>...
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the dni spokesman says changing the wording about al qaeda to extremists was a decision to protect sources and not a political move. gop lawmakers have sharply criticized ambassador susan rice for the talking points. >>> 22 people were hurt in an explosion on a bus in tell aviv. hamas praised the attack but did not claim responsibility. and we have new pictures of an explosion in gaza city. there it is there. officials say at least 142 people have been killed in the eight-day conflict and more than 1,000 people have been wounded. israeli authorities say five people have been killed in israel. 70 more have been wounded. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton condemned that bus attack in tel aviv as she scrambles to salvage any hope for a peace agreement. for the second straight day she's meeting with prime minister benjamin netanyahu. earlier, she sat down with palestinian president mahmoud abbas in the west bank. and now she is sitting down with the egyptian president, mohamed morsi, who is trying to broker a peace deal. the bus attack in tel aviv, how bigative shadow does it cast on this
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consulate in benghazi was spontaneous and not al qaeda related. rice is most likely hoping this round of meetings goes better than yesterday's. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. the bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before. >> she misled the american public. i think that she would say that. she'd have to say that. >> our senior congressional correspondent dana bash is on capitol hill. a question for you. how can someone who wants to be america's top diplomat go into a meeting and make things worse? >> reporter: it is inexplicable is the honest answer to that question, carol. now, let's just be clear here. the people she had a meeting with, though, yesterday are her most rabid critics, those three senators you just played right before coming to me, so they definitely, you know, not that they wouldn't give her a fair hearing but they have been very, very critical of her from the start saying that they would potentially block her nomination even before talking to her. the mee
consulate in benghazi was spontaneous and not al qaeda related. rice is most likely hoping this round of meetings goes better than yesterday's. >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. the bottom line, i'm more disturbed now than i was before. >> she misled the american public. i think that she would say that. she'd have to say that. >> our senior congressional correspondent dana bash is on capitol hill. a question for...
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they took out the words al qaeda in its place and put islamic extremist. is susan rice now free and clear here and does james clapper and his office need to be held accountable. >>? >> i don't think anybody is free and clear because the story keeps changing. this is the most evolving story. i think, you know, since the episodes of dallas and who shot j.r. we don't know. the reason we don't know is because they tell us a different story every week. i think it's like throwing spatting strands against the wall hoping something sticks. at the keep throwing a story out there hoping we believe one of them the more stories you we've weave the less believable they become. my father always said if you tell the truth you don't have to remember what you said yesterday. that simple common sense answer somebody maybe ought to share that with the white house and the people in the state department and the director of national intelligence. >> governor, stick around. up next he was convicted of driving drunk and killing his friend instead of going to jail, a judge sentenc
they took out the words al qaeda in its place and put islamic extremist. is susan rice now free and clear here and does james clapper and his office need to be held accountable. >>? >> i don't think anybody is free and clear because the story keeps changing. this is the most evolving story. i think, you know, since the episodes of dallas and who shot j.r. we don't know. the reason we don't know is because they tell us a different story every week. i think it's like throwing spatting...
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. >> how the al qaeda references were eliminated. was it james clapper? was it the justice department? was it somebody else. that we don't know the answer to and maybe the confirmation hearings for susan rice will reveal that. however, i think what's striking about this "washington post" piece, and again, it is online by stephanie mccrummon anybody can read it, how obvious it is they are setting her to run for president in 2016. as soon as she leaves the state dipt which will be probably next, a little while, articles like this will be seen, part of a fund-raising pitch. hillary is your obvious choice, democrats to run for president. look at all the puffy praise. every bad thing that happened in the obama administration foreign policy not saying all bad but this article now wipes all those away. she is beloved. everybody loves her. she spent 30 years in public service which i don't quite understand how they got the math on that. nonetheless they're saying it that way. and i think it's reminder what we have to look forward to in the next four years. >> thi
. >> how the al qaeda references were eliminated. was it james clapper? was it the justice department? was it somebody else. that we don't know the answer to and maybe the confirmation hearings for susan rice will reveal that. however, i think what's striking about this "washington post" piece, and again, it is online by stephanie mccrummon anybody can read it, how obvious it is they are setting her to run for president in 2016. as soon as she leaves the state dipt which will be...
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qaeda being involved. so another question for her would clearly be, who changed that, who decided not to include that, right? >> let's come to the second point. that she says she simply read these talking points and if that's true, really poses a much more fundamental question. why did she read the talking points? and it goes to a basic disagreement about how senior officials function in government. there are plenty of people, and i can same secretaries of state, who simply regurgitate what their bureaucracies produced for them, who relied on talking points. talking points were put in front of them and they read them. that is one way to approach government. that is not the way i approached government and got me in considerable trouble from time to time. if that is the way she approached it i think there is question whether from a point of view of judgment that is something that you want to see perpetuated. martha: talk about the politics of all of this for a moment because there's a reason that susan rice
qaeda being involved. so another question for her would clearly be, who changed that, who decided not to include that, right? >> let's come to the second point. that she says she simply read these talking points and if that's true, really poses a much more fundamental question. why did she read the talking points? and it goes to a basic disagreement about how senior officials function in government. there are plenty of people, and i can same secretaries of state, who simply regurgitate...
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intelligence communities that made those significant changes to the talking points that took out phrases like al-qaeda, jon. jon: still so many questions left to answer. catherine herridge, thank you. >> reporter: you're welcome. jon: well, both senators mccabe and ayotte will appear on fox news channel earlier today. senator ayotte will speak with megyn kelly on "america live" which comes to you right after "happening now." and then on your world, 4 p.m. eastern time, neil cavuto will talk with senator mccain, his first formal interview since today's meeting with ambassador rice, you'll want to hear what both senators have to say. jenna: new concerns right now, the president and republicans may not be able to reach a deal on that looming fiscal cliff. the president meeting with small business owners at the white house despite signs that talks are stalling on capitol hill. james rosen is live at the white house and, james, just last week folks were saying there's some optimism coming out of these talks. why now is there a feeling that maybe things respect going as well? >> reporter: let's face it, jen
intelligence communities that made those significant changes to the talking points that took out phrases like al-qaeda, jon. jon: still so many questions left to answer. catherine herridge, thank you. >> reporter: you're welcome. jon: well, both senators mccabe and ayotte will appear on fox news channel earlier today. senator ayotte will speak with megyn kelly on "america live" which comes to you right after "happening now." and then on your world, 4 p.m. eastern time,...
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and in that meeting, what happened is he told the senators that it was actually the fbi who took al qaeda references out of the unclassified talking points. only to call back several hours later saying, oops, i was wrong, it wasn't the fbi, it was the cia. here is what lindsey graham said about that. >> i can't help but feel incredibly disappointed that we were told something at 10:00 a.m. that couldn't withstand scrutiny for six hours. and is totally inconsistent with what we were told the day before. we have five different explanations of who changed the talking points to take out benghazi. and four different reasons. this is becoming a joke. >> so what these meetings least this particular issue has done is added fuel to the fire and it is not like, you needed to add any more fuel to the fire, especially for senators like lindsey graham who is already really publicly outraged about a lot of issues dealing with the benghazi attack. >> this is just one more. one more. dana bash, thank you. >>> after trashing the hit tv show "two and a half men," the actor angus jones, now back tracking fr
and in that meeting, what happened is he told the senators that it was actually the fbi who took al qaeda references out of the unclassified talking points. only to call back several hours later saying, oops, i was wrong, it wasn't the fbi, it was the cia. here is what lindsey graham said about that. >> i can't help but feel incredibly disappointed that we were told something at 10:00 a.m. that couldn't withstand scrutiny for six hours. and is totally inconsistent with what we were told...
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qaeda terrorists on the attack in benghazi, libya. that attack killed four americans, including u.s. ambassador chris stevens. rice maintains that she made it very clear, the intelligence information she had at the time was preliminary. senators are threatening to block her nomination if president obama chooses her to be his next secretary of state. >>> president obama and vice president joe biden will meet with mexico's president-elect today. pena kneeate toe has a new message. in an editorial in "the washington post" he said the u.s./mexico relations need to go beyond drugs and security concerns. topping his list, deepening economic ties with the united states. >>> the remains of former palestinian leader yasser arafat were exhumed this morning from a mausoleum in the west bank. many palestinians believe that arafat was poisoned by israel when he died in 2004. now, an international team of scientists will analyze tissue samples to see if they contain any traces of a radioactive substance. the actual cause of arafat's death was never
qaeda terrorists on the attack in benghazi, libya. that attack killed four americans, including u.s. ambassador chris stevens. rice maintains that she made it very clear, the intelligence information she had at the time was preliminary. senators are threatening to block her nomination if president obama chooses her to be his next secretary of state. >>> president obama and vice president joe biden will meet with mexico's president-elect today. pena kneeate toe has a new message. in an...